There is a good discussion on Presuppositional versus Evidential Apologetics on a recent Unbelievable podcast. You can listen to it here. (HT: AOMin)
Kurt Jaros speaks on the evidential position and Scott Oliphant speaks on the presuppositional position. They discuss alternate terms for the positions and sometimes use them. The alternate term for Evidential Apologetics is “Natural Theology”. The Alternate term for Presuppositonal Apologetics is “Covenant Apologetics”. I mention that so you won’t be thrown off if you dive into the middle of it without listening to the whole thing.
One thing I wanted to point out: At just past the 1 hour mark, 1:03:00 Jaros asks, “How do we know?” He’s asking the epistemological question about how we convey with certainty the assertions regarding our Christian theology over and against other beliefs. The argument Jaros is making is that presuppositonal apologists still need to provide evidence to back up their assertions.
Oliphant’s response is that God can use all kinds of things, but that doesn’t make those things true or epistemologically revealing. Evidential apologetics are still constrained to probability. Jaros understood the response well enough, but I wanted to unpack this briefly.
Neither Evidential nor Presuppositional apologetics are convincing unless the Holy Spirit opens someone to the truth of the gospel. Now, my non-Reformed friends will disagree with this. That’s what makes evidential apologetics more appealing to the non-Reformed.
But in either case, the most convincing presentation isn’t evidential in the classical sense, it’s testimonial in the legal sense. That’s why our witness is of the utmost importance. Those of us who have the Holy Spirit can testify as to his work in our lives. We can testify as to the living work of Christ through the Holy Spirit today.
It’s not like a science experiment where we can say that this is most likely to be true, but like a court case where we take the stand as eyewitness testimony to the living God. Yet we do not make our case to the jury as it were. We call out fellow witnesses to recognize their own testimony of the work of God in their lives. That is the truth that Presuppositional Apologetics upholds.
Consider, therefore, your witness.
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Monday, June 24, 2013
Sunday, June 23, 2013
SBC Calvinism Committee Report
Last year Frank Page, the President of the Southern
Baptist Convention Executive Committee, called together a committee to study the
issue of Calvinism in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Calvinism has been
debated passionately in recent years and the debate has threatened the unity of
the SBC.
Last month the committee released its report. The report
has been well received by both Calvinists and non-Calvinists alike. A multitude
of helpful blog articles were immediately written you can Google it and see all
the material that has been written on it. At the convention last week in
Houston, the new tone of the debate seemed to be in play and everyone is happy.
I’m certainly glad.
The response I have to this is an observation that I hope
someone picks up on, thinks about, and acts on. I don’t have any authority in
the SBC or recognized qualification to develop something that will be widely accepted.
So the best I can do is point out the issue I see in a couple of venues and
hope someone recognizes the value of it and puts something together.
The observation I have goes back to the history of the
five points of Calvinism. These five points are the points of contention. I won’t
go into detail about the five points here because that’s a distraction from the
point that I’m trying make about them. As far as being the point of contention,
the debate came to a head when a group of non-Calvinists got together to puttogether a reaction against each of the five points and to label their position
the “traditional” Baptist position. Like it or not, they have taken the label “Traditionalist”
for their own position against Baptists who are Calvinist although the founders
of the SBC were largely Calvinists.
They have ten articles, five of which answer the five
points of Calvinism. The rest are an additional five more points of contention
against Calvinism. But the five points of Calvinism themselves aren’t a full
treatment of Calvinistic soteriology*. The five points were a summary of the Canons
of Dort that were a response to the five points of contention Jacobus Arminius developed
against John Calvin’s Reformed theology.
So the five points of Calvinism are not a summary of
Calvinistic soteriology. They are not even a helpful system of categorizing
anyone’s soteriology*. It’s a system of contention. Likewise, the original five
points of Arminianism as well as the Traditionalist statement are systems of
contention.
But the statement issued recently by the Calvinism
committee includes a summary of areas where we all agree. Where we agree is far
greater than where we disagree. So this statement is a great start for what I propose.
I think that there is a system of categorization that
would help frame the differences in terms of our agreements. I wrote an article recently about free will that illustrates what I mean by this. This kind of
system could also clear up the tendency many have of misrepresenting what the
other side believes. It doesn’t help the debate when anyone misrepresents the
opposing position.
So this is my challenge to SBC theologians. Develop this
kind of system that demonstrates the strength of our agreement and places on a
friendly foundation the areas where we disagree so that healthy debate is
fostered. I’ll work on it myself and you may see more articles in the future as
a system of categorization becomes clearer to me. But I don’t have the
influence to do anything. If someone of influence sees that this pursuit has
value, then I welcome any movement they do even if it duplicates anything I’ve
done.
*soteriology is the area of theology that talks about how
we are saved.
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